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Disinformation is Circulating About Ron DeSantis’ Mother’s Birth Location – She Was Born In/Near Poland Ohio not the Country of Poland in Europe

Disinformation is Circulating About Ron DeSantis’ Mother’s Birth Location – She Was Born In/Near The town of Poland Ohio which is in Mahoning County OH, not the Country of Poland in Europe

(June 5th 2023) -It is unclear at this time who is behind the circulating stories since early March 2023 with disinformation about Ron DeSantis’s mother Karen Ann (nee Rogers) DeSantis’ birth location. The disinformation articles claim she was born in Poland and later moved with her parents to the USA. See the articles here and here.

*The village of Poland, OH is located in Mahoning County (Wikimedia Commons, public domain)*

But that statement per my genealogy research into Ron DeSantis’ parents is not true. Ron’s mother was born in Mahoning County OH, not in the country of Poland.

Most of the sites spreading the disinformation about Ron’s mother are not allowing comments that dispute and counteract the false information therein. They seem to want it to spread unimpeded and unchallenged. Maybe their devious goal is for constitutionalist patriots (who the leftist mainstream media calls “birthers”) to pick it up and repeat it and then blame them later for starting it when they did not. See this past example of that. Note: These “clever disinformation false rumor seeders” deep-state operatives using of the place name of “Poland” without further clarification (and thus implying the country of Poland) … but also explicitly saying the Rogers family moved to the USA from there … in their articles may later get them deleted, edited, changed, or “corrected” once the false, deceptive, and misleading statement in them are revealed and their campaign has failed.

So capture their duplicitous activities now for the historical record to use to counter the finger-pointing, blame game in the media in the future when they falsely blame constitutionalists (who they disparagingly call “birthers”) for starting these disinformation rumors, as is their typical m.o.

Given that I believe these articles were started and are being done as purposeful disinformation to stir up potential constitutional eligibility rumor issues for Ron DeSantis, the articles will likely either disappear or get “corrected” without explanation at a later time and try to blame others like the “birthers” and/or “Trumpsters” for starting the rumor. So I suggest one take a screen shot of them or make a PDF copy of the articles as they exist today to show which websites started it. And if anyone can learn the true “disinformation apple seed” person(s) or organization behind this disinformation campaign, do let me know.

Here is one example from March 2023 of the articles now being circulated with disinformation about Ron DeSantis’ mother. We will see if Google Search favors these disinformation sites and suppresses articles counteracting the false statements in those site. If so, that will tell us even more that it is an organized far-left plan and disinformation campaign to muddy up the water about Ron DeSantis’ constitutional eligibility for the high office he seeks:

Source: https://www.thelist.com/1296937/what-to-know-about-ron-desantis-parents-karen-ron/

So last night I did some basic genealogy research into where Ron DeSantis’s mother was really born seeking evidence contemporaneous to her early life long before Ron DeSantis was born let alone seeking high political office. To start I needed some basics for her like her year of birth. I found this genealogy chart for Ron DeSantis online. Via that online chart I found her birth year as 1948. See image below.

Source: Geneanet.org

Then knowing that the 1950 census records are available online, I searched for Karen Ann Rogers and her parents Philip E. Rogers and Caroline L. (nee Delisio) in that census. I found Karen (first name misspelled as Caron) Ann Rogers, female, age 2, born in Ohio, living in Lowellville, Mahoning County, OH in that 1950 census. Lowellville OH is a small town near the PA border and is near to a larger town named Poland OH located nearby to the west of Lowellville. Karen (misspelled phonetically as Caron) is living with her parents Phillip E. Rogers, age 26, and his wife Caroline L. Rogers, age 26. Both parents were also born in Ohio per that census. Living nearby and listed immediately next to the Rogers family in that 1950 census is a Robert K. Delisio, age 53, born in Italy. While not specifically stated in that census he is obviously the father of Karen Ann (nee Delisio) Rogers as given in the online genealogy chart shown above. See the 1950 census image below:

Source: 1950 census images for Lowellville, Mahoning County, Ohio online via Ancestry.com. Lowellville is in eastern Ohio near the town of Poland Ohio.

Thus, this census information proves to me that Ron DeSantis’ mother and father were born in the USA in Ohio. They did not come to the USA with their daughter Karen as is stated in the disinformation pieces circulating online. I suspect it is some political operative disinformation B.S. being put out in those articles stating the Ron DeSantis’s mother was born in Poland the country in Europe and later moved to the USA.

In my opinion when those stories are discredited, the originators of them will try to blame it on “Birthers” or “Trumpsters”. But in my opinion it most likely was started by Obama and Soros connected disinformation specialists (maybe the Podesta “Think Progress” far left group in DC), putting it out to muddy the waters for the 2024 election cycle by spreading false information and rumors about Ron DeSantis’ parents.

And thus per my research, for the purposes of the “natural born Citizen” term in the Article II Section 1 Clause 5 Presidential Eligibility clause in the U.S. Constitution, Ron DeSantis who was born in the United States to parents who were also both citizens of the USA when Ron was born, he is clearly a “natural born Citizen” of the United States and constitutionally eligible to serve as President and Commander in Chief or as the Vice President.

Note: With this article I am not favoring or endorsing him for any high political office. I am simply calling B.S. regarding the false statements in the articles circulating online the last few months about his mother’s birth location.

CDR Charles Kerchner, P.E. (Retired)
Author and Genealogist
http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com
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http://www.protectourliberty.org

Other suggested reading and viewing on being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States:

1. Buy and then read my new book, “Natural Born Citizen” via: http://www.kerchner.com/books/catalog.htm … or … http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C3YD377J/genealogicalrese

2. Read, download, and print a PDF copy of this White Paper by CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret) about the “natural born Citizen” term and presidential eligibility clause in Article II of our U.S. Constitution here: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/The-Who-What-When-Where-Why-and-How-of-NBC-Term-in-Constitution.pdf

3. A chart which lists and explains the five (5) Citizenship terms used in the U.S. Constitution: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/Citizenship-Terms-Used-in-the-US-Constitution-The-5-Terms-Defined-Some-Legal-Reference-to-Same

4. Being a “born Citizen” or “Citizen at Birth” is not identically the same as a being a “natural born Citizen”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/citizen-at-birth-cab-does-not-equal-natural-born-citizen-nbc-obama-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen-of-the-usa-2/ or http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/07/citizen-at-birth-cab-does-not-equal.html

5. Read this essay regarding the constitutional term “natural born Citizen” and basic logic, i.e., trees are plants but not all plants are trees. “Natural born Citizens” are a subset of “born Citizens (citizens at birth)”. Adjectives mean something. All “natural born Citizens” are “born Citizens (citizens at birth) but not all “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” are “natural born Citizens”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/of-natural-born-citizens-and-citizens-at-birth-and-basic-logic-trees-are-plants-but-not-all-plants-are-trees-natural-born-citizens-nbc-are-citizens-at-birth-cab-but-not-all-cab/

6. A Euler Diagram which logically shows the kinds of U.S. Citizens and their set and subset relationships: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2018/06/16/natural-born-citizen/

7. The “Three Legged Stool Test” for being a Natural Born Citizen: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/the-three-legged-stool-test-analogy-for-natural-born-citizenship-of-the-united-states-to-constitutional-standards/

8. Article II Presidential Eligibility Facts: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html or https://www.scribd.com/document/161994312/Article-II-Presidential-Eligibility-Facts

9. Watch these videos (Parts I and II) by the renowned constitutional scholar Dr. Herb Titus: http://www.kerchner.com/videos/natural-born-citizen-part-1-by-dr-herb-titus.mp4 and http://www.kerchner.com/videos/natural-born-citizen-part-2-by-dr-herb-titus.mp4

10. Read the dozen of legal essays and court briefs written by constitutional and citizenship expert Attorney Mario Apuzzo on being a “natural born Citizen of the United States” and the pretenders and usurpers in three major political parties (Democrat, Republican, and Socialist parties) – who invalidly claimed such birth status – at his legal blog: http://puzo1.blogspot.com

11. Read online or download and save dozens of historical papers and articles written over time, some over 200 years ago, describing what a “natural born Citizen” of the United States is to constitutional standards: https://www.scribd.com/lists/3301209/Papers-Discussing-Natural-Born-Citizen-Meaning-to-Constitutional-Standards

What the Deep State Fears Most | by Bob68

What the Deep State Fears Most | by Bob68 | @ ThePostEmail.com

(May 31, 2023) — The Democrats and complicit Republicans fear Trump mostly because he is the only candidate who openly said he does not believe Obama is eligible and that Obama is an identity fraud. Trump is correct. That is a big deal because both parties did nothing to stop Obama from being sworn in, meaning both parties committed treason and must now protect Obama and others who could lead to Obama to protect themselves.

In my view, this was and is obvious, clear and easy to understand from day one, and the actions and inaction of both parties have repeatedly proven what I and others who have said similar things, often in much greater detail than I am capable of, were absolutely correct back then and still are, with more proof than ever. The fundamental change continues with Obama in his “third term” and all complicit still lying and/or remaining silent to protect themselves from possible charges of treason for giving America’s government and her military to her enemies.

It’s not even complicated, just apparently too big to prosecute. … continue reading at: https://www.thepostemail.com/2023/05/31/what-the-deep-state-fears-most/

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CDR Charles Kerchner, P.E. (Retired)
http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com
http://www.scribd.com/user/52640192/protectourliberty/lists
http://www.protectourliberty.org

Other suggested reading and viewing on being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States:

1. Buy and then read my new book, “Natural Born Citizen” via: http://www.kerchner.com/books/catalog.htm … or … http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C3YD377J/genealogicalrese

Who Was The Original “Birther”? It Was Barack Hussein Obama II Himself!

Who Was The Original “Birther”? It Was Barack Hussein Obama II Himself!

The biography in the 1991 pamphlet published by the Acton and Dystel literary agency promoting Obama’s 1991 book “Journeys in Black and White” stated Barack Obama “was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii”. Said early life details are always provided by the author to his agent. The Obama biography in subsequent editions of the pamphlets (with various life accomplishment updates) continued to say he was “born in Kenya” for 17 years until Obama entered the race for President and his backers and enabling media started the “clean up ” and online purge of his previous self-promoting early life-narrative statements. Then it was changed to remove the born in Kenya statement. So Obama was the first “Birther”!
See this news story for more on this pamphlet:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii/

Download a copy of this advertorial published 18 April 2011 in The Washington Times National Weekly Edition at this link: https://www.scribd.com/doc/53259902/What-U-S-Pres-in-History-Has-Multiple-Sources-in-Foreign-Country-Saying-He-Was-Born-There

And then when Hillary Clinton’s campaign operatives saw Obama getting traction in the polls, they started, seeded, fertilized, and gave deep roots to what became the “Birther Movement” during late 2007 & early 2008 by surreptitiously spreading information that Obama was foreign born, i.e., that Obama was “born in Indonesia” in some forums or “born in Kenya” in others and also mentioning his Muslim education and roots and allegations Obama’s secret second middle name was Mohammad. They were scattering political seeds to the political winds to see what took root and flourished at that time to stop Obama’s rising in the polls.

Her campaign and backers continued that surreptitious “Obama was foreign born” and “Obama secretly was a Muslim” campaign until Hillary under heavy pressure sold out to Obama in the summer of 2008 at that secret meeting they had together. That meeting was apparently arranged by big money left-wing Democratic Party donors and Obama’s backers and operatives where Hillary was “made an offer she could not refuse”. Hillary saw her campaign funding was drying up and it was deeply in debt. Obama was now the “anointed one” by the far, far-left big money in the U.S. and with money even flowing in under the table from foreign sources. The big, far-left money and their comrades in the mainstream media and the deep state had made it clear to Hillary before that secret meeting and more emphatically at it, that she had to get out of the way or else.

Was it monetary offers to be given immediately up front such as paying off Hillary’s multi-million dollars of campaign debt combined with other offers dangled before her for the future enrichment of the Clinton’s such as the offer of the (as it turned out very lucrative) Secretary of State job with its eventual pay-to-play payoff scheme opportunities that Hillary and Bill utilized to the hilt with the Clinton Foundation? Remember the Uranium One deal as one example of what transpired with that opportunity for future payoffs opened up to the Clinton’s by her stepping aside and taking the Secretary of State job offered. And then there was Haitian Aide corruption scandal as another example. Or was it not just all carrots offered but some very big sticks wielded and revealed to her at that secret meeting that Obama had a lot more “Opposition Research” damaging dirt on Hillary and Bill Clinton than they had on Obama?

However the Birther Movement that Hillary’s operatives surreptitiously seeded and fertilized could not be stopped even though Hillary now wanted it to stop and she distanced herself ever more vocally publicly from it, as too many inconvenient facts surfaced as a result of independent investigations by “others” which were triggered by the Birther Movement such as Obama’s forged “short born” Certification of Live Birth and other facts continually surfacing over time that pointed to criminal identity fraud by Obama and also Obama’s lack of constitutional eligibility for the high office he sought.

As a result of Obama’s star rising and Hillary’s fading in the first half of 2008, many of Hillary’s operatives not wanting to see Hillary cut off at the knees by the Democratic Party big money donors increasingly favoring Obama over Hillary, formed a group called PUMA . Later some of that group split off and changed the meaning of the acronym of PUMA to one more politically correct to be used for fund raising,and continued the anti-Obama surreptitious operation for many months and were subsequently joined by others who saw Obama as a threat to our very nation.

But as time went on, and the need to coverup Hillary’s campaign’s role in surreptitiously spreading and planting rumors about Obama’s questionable early life narrative and birth place location since Hillary sold out and joined the Obama team, it was only the “others” who were blamed for starting it all.

Using revisionist history tactics orchestrated by the first birther Obama himself, his campaign, the “birther-apple-seed” spreading operatives from the former Hillary campaign after she joined Obama’s team, who at that point in time were totally dening any role in it, and of course with the help the totally enabling mainstream media, the “others” were blamed for starting the rumors, when they clearly did not.

As has clearly been shown here, it was not the “others” but Obama himself via well documented evidence from at least the year 1991 until and including the year 2007, and reportedly long before 1991, saying he was born in Kenya. And then Hillary’s campaign operatives in late 2007 and early 2008 picked up on it and were the root cause of the growing “Birther Movement” and “Obama is foreign born” statements and issues surfacing in the first half of 2008. Then when no longer politically useful to either of them they wanted it all to go away and to blame “others” using a revisionist history of events totally enabled by the mainstream media, their socialist comrades in arms, to deceive the American electorate about the truth about who Obama really was and was not (he was not constitutionally eligible for the office he sought) and what he represented – a deep threat to our constitutional republic. But too many Obama life narrative lies, identity fraud, and use of a stolen SSN had been exposed by that time to have it just go away.

Watch this video at the following link and also then read the news story at ThePostEmail newspaper about those events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=XwSw9O0agGI

Why Did Chris Matthews Change His Obama Birthplace Story?

But no matter where Barack Hussein Obama II was born, since he was born a dual national and a dual citizen with innate divided loyalties at and by birth, i.e., by owing allegiance at birth to two countries England via his British (Colony of Kenya) foreign national father and U.S. via his mother (although there are doubts about her ability to do so if Obama was foreign born because of her young age), he was NOT constitutionally eligible to serve as President and Commander in Chief of our military since he was NOT a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. Obama was not born with sole allegiance at birth to the USA and only the USA. Thus he was not and is not constitutionally eligible to be the President and Commander in Chief of our military. He was a usurper.

Other suggested reading and viewing on being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States:

1. Buy and then read my new book, “Natural Born Citizen” via: http://www.kerchner.com/books/catalog.htm … or … http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C3YD377J/genealogicalrese

6. A Euler Diagram which logically shows the kinds of U.S. Citizens and their set and subset relationships: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2018/06/16/natural-born-citizen/

8. Article II Presidential Eligibility Facts: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html or https://www.scribd.com/document/161994312/Article-II-Presidential-Eligibility-Facts

An Excellent New Book: The Rubbish Hauler’s Wife versus Barack Obama

An Excellent New Book: The Rubbish Hauler’s Wife versus Barack Obama
by: Susan Daniels – Licensed Private Investigator

Description per Amazon Listing – My Personal Book Review Further Down:

Description:

The Rubbish Hauler’s Wife versus Barack Obama is the true story of Susan Daniels, an ordinary housewife from smalltown Ohio. Beginning in 2009, she felt her country was being destroyed by the Left from within. She decided to single-handedly take on the President of the United States, Barack Obama, by attempting to remove him from the state of Ohio presidential ballot in 2012.

Daniels sets the stage for his drama by recounting her life story which began as an uphill battle, from an unimaginable childhood to the murder of her husband, a rubbish hauler, by a Cleveland gangster named Danny Greene. She found herself widowed at the age of thirty with seven small children, the oldest was ten. Upon her husband’s death, the secret she had kept of his second family was splashed all over the news media, stunning friends, family and, most of all, her own children. Daniels was left with a high school education, little hope and no money.

Daniels had to rely on her own resources to raise her family and move on, later becoming a private investigator at age fifty-three. In doing so, she stumbled upon Barack Obama’s biggest secret – though allegedly born in Hawaii, he had been using a stolen social security number issued in Connecticut for his entire adult life!

Daniels filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama’s Ohio candidacy in 2012, with the goal of forcing him to reveal his true origins and identity. She tried to enlist the aid of high ranking Republicans, none of whom would acknowledge what she was doing. That’s how Daniels learned early on that the fix was in with the Uni-party in Washington DC. Now at the age of eighty-one, Daniels shares her amazing journey from personal heartache to challenging the highest levels of power in the United States government.

You can order the book via this link: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C52773PX/genealogicalrese

My Review of the Book – CDR Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. (Retired):

A excellent easy to read book that reveals how this country got into the mess it is now in via letting a constitutionally ineligible person, a person who is not a “natural born Citizen of the United States, and one with a questionable and ever changing early life narrative to suit his at that time immediate personal life and/or political agenda, gain access to the highest political office in our nation.

Barack Hussein Obama II was born with foreign influence and dual citizenship and divided loyalties to more than one country at birth and thus was not a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. A “natural born Citizen” is a person born with unity of citizenship and sole allegiance at birth to one and only country, i.e., the USA. He was not constitutionally eligible for the office to which he gained control.

Learn about crimes Obama committed during his lifetime such as the use by Obama of a SSN stolen from a person born in CT, a state he did not live in when it was issued and one he never lived in. Learn about his use of a forged and back dated draft registration card. Learn about the lack of veracity of his key identity alleged birth documents.

By the powers-to-be ignoring the signs of identity fraud and criminal activity in the early life of Obama and allowing Obama to gain access to highest most powerful office in our nation, that of President and Commander in Chief of our military, Obama then was able to appoint and infiltrate many subversive people with very bad plans for America’s future deeply into the Washington DC “deep state” to further divide and undermine our constitutional republic. Obama promised to forever change America. And as of now he has – but not for the better.

This is a must read book to learn about the various actors and players in the early life grooming of Obama and the foreign money and influencers helping Obama gain the stepping stones and power he needed to eventually implement the “Dreams” from his anti-American, on-U.S. Citizen, non-immigrant to the USA father – Barack Hussein Obama Sr. Obama Sr hated America.

Those “dreams” from the father and visions were written about in Obama Jr/II’s book “Dreams From My Father”. Obama Jr/II adopted those dreams as his own but kept them hidden politically for the most part with the major help of an enabling mainstream media. The father’s “dreams” and the son’s plans and actions wanted to forever change America. But not in way good for America’s constitutional republic and future. They wanted to bring down America’s economic, political, and military power on the world stage. And at this point in time, they have succeeded in many respects.

Again, this book is a must read book to learn about how the enigma inside of a mystery of Obama, who as seen in this book was a grifter, imposter, and country of birth chameleon in his early life, was allowed to gain access to the highest political office in our country and the consequences of that happening. CDR Kerchner (Ret) – Author: “Natural Born Citizen”

I highly recommend that you read this book. You can order the book via this link: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C52773PX/genealogicalrese

Other suggested reading and viewing on being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States:

1. Buy and then read my new book, “Natural Born Citizen” via: http://www.kerchner.com/books/catalog.htm … or … http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0C3YD377J/genealogicalrese

6. A Euler Diagram which logically shows the kinds of U.S. Citizens and their set and subset relationships: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2018/06/16/natural-born-citizen/

8. Article II Presidential Eligibility Facts: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html or https://www.scribd.com/document/161994312/Article-II-Presidential-Eligibility-Facts