A Response to the Idea of Removing the ‘Natural Born Citizen’ Clause from our Constitution | by Attorney Mario Apuzzo

Constitutional Article II Presidential Eligibility Clause Scholar and Attorney Mario Apuzzo. Click on image for more information.

A Response to the Idea of Removing the ‘Natural Born Citizen’ Clause from our Constitution | by Attorney Mario Apuzzo

University of Richmond School of Law Professor Kevin C. Walsh proposes ridding our Constitution of its “natural born Citizen” clause. See his article, “The ‘Irish Born’ One American Citizenship Amendment,” here:  http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3165238 .

Professor Walsh writes that the original Constitution is not perfect and it is time to change its actual text. In that connection, he advocates that naturalized American citizens should be eligible to be President. He states: “There are not two classes of American citizenship, just one. It is time to repeal the Natural Born Citizen Clause.” People have posted comments to his article and Mr. Walsh addresses them here

http://reason.com/volokh/2018/05/17/replies-to-comments-on-a-constitutional and here http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2018/05/replies-to-comments-on-a-constitutional-amendment-to-repeal-the-natural-born-citizen-clause-2712011.html . I have picked two of the questions and Mr. Walsh’s responses for my own comment. They are:

  1. Question: If very few people care much about this amendment, why would anyone sponsor it?

Mr. Walsh’s response: Putting aside the fact that it is good for America generally, uses include: (1) deflection of false “anti-immigrant” accusations based on a lawmaker’s stance against illegal immigration; (2) attraction of votes from naturalized citizens and their friends; (3) rejection of “blood and soil” nationalism.

My comment: We are supposed to believe without any explanation that this amendment would be “good for America generally.” To avoid “’anti-immigrant’ accusations,” we are told we need to change our presidential eligibility by getting rid of the natural born citizen clause, a clause that the Framers included in the Constitution for national security’s sake. We are also told to change our presidential eligibility so that some unstated person or party can garner more votes at the polls. And the best of all, Mr. Walsh tells us that removing the natural born citizen clause will get rid of “’blood and soil’ nationalism” from American politics. In his actual article, he calls it “’blood and soil’ white nationalism.” In that article he also says that politicians should be amendable to advocating getting rid of the natural born citizen clause to give the appearance of not being anti-immigrant(“easy inoculation against the virulent accusation of being anti-immigrant”) and not being associated with people who advocate such a bad idea. His plan for getting the amendment accomplished is for Democrats to set up Republican to do the job for them. His scheme is for two-thirds of both Houses of Congress to propose the amendment, led by Republicans who for the sake of winning elections should want to give voters the appearance that they are not anti-immigrant or racists and supported by Democrats who are already on board. It looks like in Mr. Walsh’s world, there should be no problem with “Russian collusion.” Did it ever occur to Mr. Walsh that blood and soil is what makes a nation state and that it is the energy which when used properly keeps people free?

  1. Question: What about competing loyalties to country of birth for a candidate who is a naturalized citizen?

Professor Walsh’s response: Let’s remember we’re only talking about eligibility. Presumably voters can decide about allegiance. And there’s no good reason to treat circumstances of birth as a reliable proxy. (The Manchurian Candidate was born in the United States.) With respect to competing loyalties more generally, the naturalization process requires a choice and newly naturalized Americans are akin to converts.

My comment: What Professor Walsh does not address is the question of whether it is voters or parties who produce our elected leaders. He should examine why the Framers guaranteed the States a republican form of government and gave us the Electoral College as part of the process for electing our President and Commander in Chief. If voters without more can in the heat and partisanship of an election be trusted to make the right decision about who shall be the single person to wield not only the executive power, but also all our military power, then why even have a Constitution or even laws? Will Professor Walsh next be advocating getting rid of our republican form of government and replace it with mob rule? He states that citizenship is no guarantee of allegiance. If the natural born citizen clause is to die because it is not a guarantee of loyalty, then why have the age and residency eligibility requirements or any requirements for that matter? Finally, he tells us that a naturalized person is as loyal as a natural born citizen because naturalization requires “a choice.” What he fails to tell us is what exactly is that choice and how does it relate to allegiance to the United States.

Needless to say, I am not impressed with the reasons that Mr. Walsh puts forth for justifying his proposal to remove the natural born citizen clause from presidential eligibility and ultimately from the Constitution. The Framers inserted the clause into the Constitution to assure that the constitutional republic would be preserved by requiring that the nation be led in international relations and military combat by a person who had undivided allegiance and loyalty to the United States. For those reasons, the clause is worth preserving.  …  continue reading at:  http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-response-to-theidea-of-removing.html

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Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution – The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same | by CDR Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. (Ret):  http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/Citizenship-Terms-Used-in-the-U-S-Constitution-The-5-Terms-Defined-Some-Legal-Reference-to-Same

Also read this White Paper essay – The Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How the Natural Born Citizen Term was Put Into Our U.S. Constitution as to Eligibility for the Office of the President | by CDR Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. (Ret):  http://www.scribd.com/doc/300919680/The-Who-What-When-Where-Why-and-How-of-the-natural-born-Citizen-Term-in-Our-U-S-Constitution

CDR Charles Kerchner, P.E. (Retired)
Lehigh Valley PA USA
http://www.protectourliberty.org/
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/
http://www.scribd.com/user/52640192/protectourliberty/lists

P.S. Also read this essay regarding the legal term of art “natural born Citizen” and basic logic, i.e., trees are plants but not all plants are trees. Natural born Citizens are a subset of “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” but not all “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” are “natural born Citizens”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/of-natural-born-citizens-and-citizens-at-birth-and-basic-logic-trees-are-plants-but-not-all-plants-are-trees-natural-born-citizens-nbc-are-citizens-at-birth-cab-but-not-all-cab/ … AND … http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

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Who IS Obama? | by Rev. Austin Miles

Who IS Obama? | by Rev. Austin Miles @ CapitolHillOutsider.com

(February 26, 2018) – A recent article written by a Chicago union man was recently forwarded to me by a frequent contributor to this column, Lawrence Craig which asks the question millions have asked and have been fluffed off for asking. So Who IS Obama? That is the question.

Obama managed to become an Illinois senator his position there did not receive a great deal of attention.His quiet placement in the Senate was to buy time.

Next he was on a campaign trail announcing his candidacy for President of the United States. His position on running the U.S. was made abundantly clear when he was asked on the street by Joe the Plumber, what would be the first thing he would do if elected.

Without missing a beat Obama said he would “redistribute the wealth.” And nobody questioned that Communist mission statement. This writer saw and heard that since it was shown on live TV.

And who can forget that major campaign speech on an outdoor stage with two Greek columns that he would stand in between.

This represented a royal setting where he looked and sounded like a gay Greek philosopher.

His was a strange campaign since absolutely NO personal information about him was disclosed. Yet his charisma carried him through the entire process.

As the nation watched on election day, the “results showed” that Obama won the election. We now had our first ‘black president,’ in our nation’s history. At least that was half right since he was only half black.

Now get this: a couple of hours later on that election day, Grant’s Park in Chicago suddenly came alive, with a prepared stage, seats that covered the entire park being filled with thousands of people for the “Election Night Victory Party,” which was soon underway.

A miracle obviously had occurred. An undecided election had just been called, the president named, and within two hours, Grants Park had been fully put together for this huge public gathering. That was either a miracle or a colossal demonstration of optimism.

Furthermore, we dove in a bit deeper and learned that Obama had deposited a million dollars to secure Grants Park for that, again, Election Victory Party–SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION even took place!

All personal information about Obama was blocked from view, it was not even certain if he was born in the U.S. since no birth certificate was provided despite repeated requests. 

We understand Obama’s sponsors including George Soros and The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) spent millions of dollars for lawyers who skillfully blocked any and all information about him, including his college records, wedding records or birth information about his two daughters.

Yes, Obama, who was shoe-horned into the Oval Office, will go down in history as the perpetrator of the greatest fraud in history. And Obama was not VOTED in. He was put in by a subtle  coup’d’etat.  …  continue reading at: http://www.capitolhilloutsider.com/who-is-obama/

 [CDR Kerchner (Ret)’s remark: More details about Obama’s missing and forged ID documents here]

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Obama the Enigma: Click on the image to learn more about Obama he does not want you to know.
Obama the Enigma: Click on the image to learn more about Obama he does not want you to know.

A warning from the past — some conspiracies are very real and are also large and well organized and in process for a long time. Such is the nature of far-left Marxist activities in the USA. The target of the seditious political conspiracy we are currently faced with is to destroy our U.S. Constitution, our Republic, our culture, and our military. Remember this quote from history: “We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism [now called Democratic Socialists of America] are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. … The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.” Quote by: J. Edgar Hoover former FBI director. Source: Elks Magazine (August 1956).

CDR Charles Kerchner, P.E. (Retired)
Lehigh Valley PA USA
http://www.protectourliberty.org/
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/
http://www.scribd.com/user/52640192/protectourliberty/lists

P.S. Also read this essay regarding the legal term of art “natural born Citizen” and basic logic, i.e., trees are plants but not all plants are trees. Natural born Citizens are a subset of “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” but not all “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” are “natural born Citizens”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/of-natural-born-citizens-and-citizens-at-birth-and-basic-logic-trees-are-plants-but-not-all-plants-are-trees-natural-born-citizens-nbc-are-citizens-at-birth-cab-but-not-all-cab/ … AND … http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

Moscow’s agents have always supported Democratic candidates | by Trevor Loudon

Moscow’s agents have always supported Democratic candidates | by Trevor Loudon @ TrevorLoudon.com

(February 20, 2018 – 6:09 pm EST) –Russian interference in the 2016 US elections should come as no surprise. Moscow, both under Soviet and neo-Soviet (Putinist) rule, has attempted to influence US elections since the 1920s – usually on the Democratic Party side.

Cross-posted from WND.

The Soviets historically used the communist-controlled unions and co-opted journalists as the means to manipulate elections. Currently, the Soviets use their old tactics in addition to manipulate social media outlets such as Facebook and Twitter.

Leading Soviet nuclear physicist Andrei Sakharov quoted Soviet premier Kruschev in 1961 claiming credit for helping to elect President Kennedy the previous year in his Memoirs.

Sakharov Memoir page 217

This is credible, because the pro-Soviet, communist-controlled US labor unions, especially in Chicago, supported Kennedy and he won that election by an incredibly narrow margin – with allegations of widespread voter fraud in Illinois’ Cook County.

According to Sakharov, Kruschev also expressed disgust that when the Soviets met with Kennedy after the elections in Vienna, they did not get the concessions they had hoped for.

According to Politico, on June 3, 1961:

“President John F. Kennedy and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev met in Vienna for a two-day summit. In a letter delivered to Khrushchev in March, Kennedy proposed the two leaders meet for an informal exchange of views. Accordingly, they conferred without a set agenda.

Subsequent accounts, including Kennedy’s, confirmed that the summit did not go well. Khrushchev took a particularly harsh stance over Berlin, a Western enclave within communist-controlled East Germany, where the United States, Britain and France had maintained a symbolic military presence since the German defeat in World War II.

In addition to Berlin, Kennedy later told reporters, Khrushchev had berated him on a wide range of Cold War issues, including ‘wars of national liberation’ and nuclear weapons.

After Kennedy was assassinated, the Soviets worked to elect his successor Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Johnson (who had worked under Communist Party member Aubrey Williams in the Roosevelt-era National Youth Administration) beat conservative Barry Goldwater by a wide margin.

By 1960, Chicago Communist Party member David Canter (who had been raised in the Soviet Union) had teamed up with another well known Chicago Communist Party USA member, LeRoy Wolins. The pair owned a company called Translation World Publishers, which specialized in publications from and about the Soviet Union. The company soon attracted the attention of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), which suspected Canter and Wolins of being conduits for Soviet propaganda.

From the HUAC report: “Communist outlets for the distribution of Soviet propaganda” recorded hearings dated May 9, 10 & 17 and July 12, 1962:  …  continue reading at:  http://www.trevorloudon.com/2018/02/moscows-agents-have-always-supported-democratic-candidates/

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Obama the Enigma: Click on the image to learn more about Obama he does not want you to know.
Obama the Enigma: Click on the image to learn more about Obama he does not want you to know.

A warning from the past — some conspiracies are very real and are also large and well organized and in process for a long time. Such is the nature of far-left Marxist activities in the USA. The target of the seditious political conspiracy we are currently faced with is to destroy our U.S. Constitution, our Republic, our culture, and our military. Remember this quote from history: “We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism [now called Democratic Socialists of America] are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. … The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.” Quote by: J. Edgar Hoover former FBI director. Source: Elks Magazine (August 1956).

CDR Charles Kerchner, P.E. (Retired)
Lehigh Valley PA USA
http://www.protectourliberty.org/
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/
http://www.scribd.com/user/52640192/protectourliberty/lists

P.S. Also read this essay regarding the legal term of art “natural born Citizen” and basic logic, i.e., trees are plants but not all plants are trees. Natural born Citizens are a subset of “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” but not all “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” are “natural born Citizens”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/of-natural-born-citizens-and-citizens-at-birth-and-basic-logic-trees-are-plants-but-not-all-plants-are-trees-natural-born-citizens-nbc-are-citizens-at-birth-cab-but-not-all-cab/ … AND … http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

Media Can’t — or Won’t — Report Accurately on Obama Birth Certificate Forgery

Obama’s Short-Form Birth CERTIFICATION Form is Forged. Click on Image for Details
Click on the Image for Details about Obama’s Forged Long-Form Birth CERTIFICATE and Selective Service (Draft) Registration Form

Media Can’t – or Won’t – Report Accurately on Obama Birth Certificate Forgery | by Sharon Rondeau | @ ThePostEmail.com

(Jan. 12, 2018) — An article published on Thursday by The Daily Caller misreports that former Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio accused Barack Hussein Obama of creating a forgery of his own long-form birth certificate.

Arpaio has never made such a claim.

After Arpaio announced on Tuesday that he would seek the U.S. Senate seat currently occupied by the retiring Jeff Flake, mainstream media outlets requested interviews of the former six-term sheriff of the fourth-largest county in the United States.

On April 27, 2011, the Obama White House posted what it said was a scan of a certified copy of Obama’s “long-form” birth certificate allegedly obtained from the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH). The image was uploaded after then-businessman and reality-television star Donald Trump pressured the White House for approximately three months to release proof that Obama was born in the United States and, therefore, presumably eligible to serve as President of the United States.

Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution requires that the president and commander-in-chief be a “natural born Citizen.”  [White Paper on “natural born Citizen“]

Beginning in January of that year, Trump had made a number of high-profile media appearances during which he expressed doubts that Obama was American-born or speculated that something significant in Obama’s background had been withheld from the American people.

Although released to much fanfare and covered by an adoring press on that Wednesday morning in late April 2011, several graphics experts declared the image a poorly-assembled forgery within hours or days of its appearance.

In August 2011, 242 constituents of Arpaio’s approached him with a petition requesting that he launch an investigation into the authenticity of the image so as to ensure that their votes in the upcoming 2012 presidential election would not be disenfranchised. Arpaio agreed, delegating the task to his “Cold Case Posse,” led by former New Jersey detective Mike Zullo.

Arpaio had fully expected to quickly “clear the president” once a preliminary analysis of the image was completed, but within several days, Zullo was forced to inform Arpaio that the image was highly problematic.

The investigation continued, ultimately lasting more than five years and concluding in December 2016.  During a third and final press conference, Zullo revealed that two forensic analysts, one in Italy and one in Hawaii, had studied the image and agreed with his early conclusion that the image is a “computer-generated forgery.”

The mainstream media did its best to minimize, marginalize, or completely disregard the findings from the investigation and obviously continue to misrepresent them in new reportage since Arpaio declared his Senate candidacy.  …  Continue reading the article here:  http://www.thepostemail.com/2018/01/12/media-cant-wont-report-accurately-obama-birth-certificate-forgery/

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This issue of Obama’s Forged ID Documents Is Not Going Away Until It Is Fully & Publicly Investigated by the FBI, DOJ, and Congress. Remember This Full Page Ad Placed in Washington Times National Edition in 2011. All Therein is Still True Except We Now Have to Edit One Word When We Read It. As of Now Change the Word Have to Had — We HAD a Criminal In The White House!

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Click on image for details
Click on Image for Details about Obama’s Forged Draft Registration Card.
Click on the Image for Details about Obama's Forged Birth Certificate and Selective Service (Draft) Registration Form
Click on the Image for Details about Obama’s Forged Birth Certificate.

Download a “Sheriff’s Kit” package of evidence of Obama ID document fraud at the following link: Where Is Obama’s [REAL] Birth Certificate

Copy of AZ Chief Investigator Michael Zullo’s sworn affidavit attesting that Obama’s ID docs are forged: http://www.scribd.com/doc/141560833/

Copy of Evidence that Obama’s Selective Service (Draft) Registration Card is forged: http://www.scribd.com/doc/164956489/

Copy of Registered and OH Licensed Private Investigator Susan Daniels’ sworn affidavit attesting that Obama is Using a Stolen Social Security Number (SSN): https://www.scribd.com/document/165239883/Affidavit-of-Licensed-Private-Investigator-Susan-Daniels-of-OH-regarding-Obama-SSN

[Sheriff Mack – Obama ID Documents Are Fake!]

[Sheriff Arpaio – Congress Must Act!]

Obama the Enigma: Click on the image to learn more about Obama he does not want you to know.
Obama the Enigma: Click on the image to learn more about Obama he does not want you to know.
The Three Enablers – Click on Image to See This Full Page Ad & Many More

A warning from the past — some conspiracies are very real and are also large and well organized and in process for a long time. Such is the nature of Communist/Marxist anti-American activities in the USA. The target of the seditious political conspiracy we are currently faced with is to destroy our U.S. Constitution, our Republic, our culture, and our military. Remember this quote from history: “We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism [anti-American forces] are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. … The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.” Quote by: J. Edgar Hoover former FBI director. Source: Elks Magazine (August 1956).

Marxist/Communists are trained to lie. It’s their modus operandi to deceive their true objectives. Obama is not just a pathological liar, he’s an ideological liar: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/obama_is_not_a_pathological_liar_he_is_an_ideological_liar.html

Obama lies continually to cover his true nature and objectives. Obama named Liar of the Year. Obama is a secret member of Muslim Brotherhood. They are trained to lie and are using the Islamic principles of TAQIYYA and KITMAN on steroids to hide their anti-American activities.

For more blasts from the past of the pressure brought on Barack Obama over his forged and felony ID fraud see these lists: http://www.scribd.com/user/52640192/protectourliberty/lists

CDR Charles Kerchner, P.E. (Retired)
Lehigh Valley PA USA
http://www.protectourliberty.org/
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/
http://www.scribd.com/protectourliberty/collections/

P.S. Also read this essay regarding the constitutional presidential eligibility clause “natural born Citizen” and basic logic, i.e., trees are plants but not all plants are trees. Natural born Citizens are a subset of “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” but not all “born Citizens (citizens at birth)” are “natural born Citizens”: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/of-natural-born-citizens-and-citizens-at-birth-and-basic-logic-trees-are-plants-but-not-all-plants-are-trees-natural-born-citizens-nbc-are-citizens-at-birth-cab-but-not-all-cab/ … AND … U S Constitution Article II Presidential Eligibility Facts … AND … https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/the-three-legged-stool-test-for-natural-born-citizen-of-the-united-states-to-constitutional-standards/ Also watch this video by the renowned constitutional scholar Dr. Herb Titus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esiZZ-1R7e8