To Bret Baier @ Fox News — You need to study up on set theory and basic logic

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@BretBaier  Hello Bret:  You need to study up on set theory and basic logic. Not all “Citizens at birth” are “natural born Citizens at birth”.  Trees are plants but not all plants are trees:

Constitutional eligibility attorney Mario Apuzzo speaks out about Bret Baier’s deliberate conflating of two different citizenship legal terms of art:

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Natural born Citizen explained by the renowned constitutional scholar and attorney Herb Titus:

Herbert W. Titus is of counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C. Prior to his association with this firm, Mr. Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he served as the founding Dean of the College of Law and Government in Regent University, Virginia Beach, Virginia. Prior to his academic career, he served as a Trial Attorney and a Special Assistant United States Attorney with the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. and Kansas City, Missouri. Today he is engaged in a general practice with a concentration in constitutional strategy, litigation, and appeals.

Mr. Titus holds the J.D. degree (cum laude) from Harvard and the B.S. degree in Political Science from the University of Oregon from which he graduated Phi Beta Kappa. He is an active member of the bar of Virginia and an inactive member of the bar of Oregon. He is admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the United States Court of Claims, and the United States Courts of Appeals for the Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, District of Columbia and Federal Circuits. His constitutional practice has taken him into federal district courts in Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Montana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Wyoming, and the District of Columbia and the state courts of Idaho, Texas and North Dakota.

The Obama constitutional eligibility issue is not a fringe issue!  A poll done by Public Policy Polling (PPP) shows that almost 2/3 of GOP voters want Obama’s constitutional eligibility and true legal identity investigated:

CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Lehigh Valley PA USA

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Types of Citizens of the United States discussed as to WHEN and HOW obtained Logic Domains | by CDR Kerchner (Ret)

Types of Citizens of the United States discussed as to WHEN and HOW obtained Logic Domains | by CDR Kerchner (Ret)

When addressing the types of Citizens of the United States and sets and subset theory we need to be clear as to what we are talking about and not mix and match things in the When and How logic domains. There are two parameters that should be kept very clear in any discussions of Citizenship issues … WHEN and HOW which are two different logic domains to be considered in all discussions of U.S. Citizenship:

1. WHEN was the Citizenship obtained … at birth or at some time after birth

2. HOW was the Citizenship obtained … by man made laws and/or constitutional amendments or by nature and natural law

Let us look at the legal term of art “natural born Citizen” as to the When and How domains as to how and when the person became a Citizen of the United States.

natural (HOW obtained) | born (WHEN obtained) | Citizen of the United States

They became a Citizen of the United States by a natural process and the laws of nature and natural law, not man-made laws whether statutory or constitutional amendments AND they became such a Citizen of the United States at the instant time of their birth.  Look up in the dictionary the meaning of the word used as the adjective preceding “born Citizen”, i.e., natural.  That say it all that man-made laws or constitutional amendment CANNOT make a natural born Citizen. For man to try and make a natural born Citizen by statutory law or constitutional law would be a violation of the God given laws of nature and the Law of Nations. Man can properly describe what a natural born Citizen indisputably and undoubtedly is in man-made laws and court rulings such as the Minor v Happersett (1875) Supreme Court case decision, but man’s laws cannot make “natural born Citizens” of any country without bastardizing and corrupting language (which the progressive movement wordsmiths try to do all the time) and the laws of nature.  Only nature and natural law can make “natural born Citizens” of a country. This Supreme Court precedence setting decision in 1875 was re-affirmed in the Perkins v Elge (1939) Supreme Court case decision.  No U.S. Supreme Court decision has ever overturned these decisions.

Obama and his army of online internet Obot TROLLS, and talking heads on TV and major media if they ever remotely touch on the subject which they try to avoid doing, try to mix and match those two parameters or domains in their logic discussions in such a way to confuse people. Don’t let them.

Again read this prior article of mine and the links therein:
Trees are plants but not all plants are trees. “natural born Citizens (NBC)” are “Citizens at birth (CAB)” but not all “CAB” are “NBC”!

Five Types of Citizens Mentioned in the U.S. Constitution:

CDR Kerchner (Ret)

Natural born citizenship per the “no spin zone Goat” :-)

Originally posted on the Country First blog on Wed Jan 14 2009 4:00 pm

Boolean Algebra and basic logic explains “natural born Citizen”

2009-01-14: Natural born citizenship per the “no spin zone Goat” 🙂

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